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Episode Description

This week on Unicorny, Dom is joined by co-host Ian Henderson to interview Mark Evans,

ex-Managing Director of Marketing & Digital at Direct Line. Mark also co-hosts a top marketing podcast with Ritchie Mehta (links below).

In the conversation, the team deep dive into the background behind the iconic Winston Wolf advertising campaign that revitalised Direct Line. Dom, Ian and Mark discuss transactional trust vs. relational trust when it comes to customer acquisition. Mark explains his ‘choose your future philosophy’, the joy of pitching, and also gives his take on why they wanted to move on from the Winston Wolf campaigns while they were still popular.

CONTROVERSIAL! While other industry pundits are telling us that ads don’t wear out and need more time to wear in, here’s a marketing leader who broke the rules and reaped reward.

About The Host

Dominic Hawes is CEO of Selbey Anderson, the marketing group that helps businesses operating in complex markets win the future.

He's been in the marketing business for over 25 years and has worked in agency, in-house and in early stage VC. He is a strategy specialist and an experienced M&A practitioner in small cap transactions.

Dom started his professional career after six years as a commissioned officer in the British Army and 18 months as an analysts assistant at a well known management consultancy.

About the Co-Host

Ian Henderson is an experienced creative director, marketing consultant and agency leader specialising in connecting complex organisations with their audiences.

A strong understanding of the business, finance and corporate space together with a broad background in advertising, brand consulting and design give Ian a channel-neutral start point for simple, effective ideas that work across bought, earned and owned media.

He has a proven track record as agency CEO as well as creative director, having transformed business performance and created a new agency from scratch in challenging market conditions. He now leads AML, a London-based agency winning business and creative awards for global finance, tech, charity and government.

Ian is also an articulate broadcaster and published writer, delivering clear opinions and insights on business, marketing and travel for TV, radio and professional media.

About the Guest

Mark is an executive level marketer and experienced non-executive director across listed, public and charity sectors.

In his last exec role at Direct Line Group (DLG) Mark was Managing Director for Marketing & Digital. Mark was a long-standing member of ExCo, driving the strategic direction of the business, including IPO, rebrand, agile transformation and digitisation, and navigation through the COVID-19 crisis. Mark also sat on the Board of DLG Legal Services. Prior to DLG Mark worked at HSBC, 118118 and Mars in a broad range of Marketing and commercial roles.

Outside of DLG Mark is NED for the Marketing Society, Independent Advisor to HMRC, Chair of the School of Marketing, INED for Emma3D – a tech scale-up, and co-host of the "The Places We'll Go" podcast. He also founded a charity event - the Sprintathon - in 2016 which seeks to #beatcancerfaster and has raised £850k to date for Stand Up To Cancer.

Mark is a Fellow of the Marketing Society and of the Marketing Academy, and was recognised as the Marketing Society Leader of the Year in 2018.

About Selbey Anderson

Selbey Anderson is one of the UK’s fastest growing marketing groups. Its agencies operate globally to help businesses in complex markets win the future. With deep sector expertise in financial services, tech, pharma, biotech and industry, Selbey Anderson's clients are united by the complexity of marketing in regulated, heavily legislated or intermediated markets.

Resources:

The advertisements

Direct Line YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/@DirectLine

Companies

https://selbeyanderson.com/

https://aml-group.com/

Dom Hawes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominichawes

Mark Evans: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-evans-39b7b41

Ian Henderson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iannhenderson

The Places We’ll Go Marketing Show

Mark Evans and Ritchie Mehta’s Podcast: :https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-places-well-go-marketing-show/id1536877345

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Episode Description

This week on Unicorny, Dom is joined by co-host Ian Henderson to interview Mark Evans,

ex-Managing Director of Marketing & Digital at Direct Line. Mark also co-hosts a top marketing podcast with Ritchie Mehta (links below).

CONTROVERSIAL! While other industry pundits are telling us that ads don’t wear out and need more time to wear in, here’s a marketing leader who broke the rules and reaped reward.

About The Host

Dominic Hawes is CEO of Selbey Anderson, the marketing group that helps businesses operating in complex markets win the future.

Dom started his professional career after six years as a commissioned officer in the British Army and 18 months as an analysts assistant at a well known management consultancy.

About the Co-Host

Ian Henderson is an experienced creative director, marketing consultant and agency leader specialising in connecting complex organisations with their audiences.

Ian is also an articulate broadcaster and published writer, delivering clear opinions and insights on business, marketing and travel for TV, radio and professional media.

About the Guest

Mark is an executive level marketer and experienced non-executive director across listed, public and charity sectors.

Mark is a Fellow of the Marketing Society and of the Marketing Academy, and was recognised as the Marketing Society Leader of the Year in 2018.

About Selbey Anderson

Resources:

The advertisements

Direct Line YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/@DirectLine

Companies

https://selbeyanderson.com/

https://aml-group.com/

Dom Hawes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominichawes

Mark Evans: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-evans-39b7b41

Ian Henderson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iannhenderson

The Places We’ll Go Marketing Show

Mark Evans and Ritchie Mehta’s Podcast: :https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-places-well-go-marketing-show/id1536877345

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